First tests done (2on2).

If you have voice and team overlay, team messages become somewhat irrelevant. I noticed that I accidentally pushed report keys even if I didn't mean to. At first it was fairly difficult to use the overlay (actually I had to play few rounds with it at different locations before I found just the right place below normal message lines).

After all the testing I came to a conclusion that with voice I wouldn't use any other team messages if I had the team overlay. Also I found that reading team overlay in fast action is as hard as it is to read normal team messages... you can only see if your teammate is alive, if you have time to watch the overlay. It was easier to shoot at noises because I knew that my teammate was nowhere near the sounds were coming from... from time to time. There were still teamkills, because of the fast nature of the game, you don't always have the time to read any messages and you just shoot rocket or two to spawn when you hear someone die.

So my conclusion is that team overlay is a really good thing with voice considering the teamplay aspect. You can play much more efficiently against noises. Also you can see your teammates statuses all the time so you can react to situations more efficiently.

HOWEVER, there is one important thing: if one hasn't read the teammessages before, he won't be looking at the team overlay either. According to my experience it is really easy to lost focus on team overlay and just roam around. Also looking at it all the time will make you more vulnerable since you are not concentrating on the field and I found myself getting free damage from enemies since I wasn't quite aware at the time I was just watching the TO.

does team overlay appear in prewar?
i guess not since i can't see it

is there a some sort of minimum requirement for this? at least i cant see it with my 400*300 gl and neither do i see it with any resolution on sw.. how about thinking about us with shitty computers :----(((((((

any screens please?

I won't start using it until it's allowed everywhere(it's allowed in rookie div of eql where I play).

It would simplify far too much that's not supposed to be simple.

I haven't tried it yet but from what dakoth is saying I think the feature can really help teams which use only mm2.
Anyway, if we ban team overlay then mm3 should also be banned for similiar reasons.

mm3 still requires sender->reciever activity , team overlay doesn't.

There's a reason stuff like this; automatic things that makes the game easier, are opposed by some. The way I see it, we see the whole picture, while your vision is occluded by what's right in front of you. Yes, this change would simplify matters. Keep going in that direction long enough though, and you'll be playing pong in 3d. My point being that simplifying things, while neat and all, isn't always the way to go to make the game more fun. QW is still hanging in there after 10 years of other FPS's having flooded the market for a reason; it provides challenge to the player. In my opinion it is one of the most challenging FPS's out there. If you tear down that wall, brick by brick, by making the game easier, it is my sincere belief QW will truly die out.

There are people who have played this game for damn near 10 years and still aren't undefeatable champions. Sure, some of that might be talent (or lack thereof), but mostly I think this game is so much more than just your aim. Please don't work towards turning the game into just any other FPS that has come and gone. That's not to say that features in general shouldn't be added; I'm just saying that any features that affect gameplay in major ways need to be discussed and argued over, much like this thread does, before they are allowed in competitive gameplay.

mm3 still requires sender->reciever activity , team overlay doesn't.

But, WHERE THE FUCK IS THE SKILL IN PRESSING A BUTTON!?

QUAKE ISN'T A READING CONTEST! THERE'S NO HARM IN MAKING THINGS SIMPLER!

Allow it for everyone or for noone, imho.