The server is running...


edit: cleanup

Due to a very fatal bug MVDSV needs to be at least 0.28-SVN build 2779.

Only CVS?

Actually SVN. And yes, no exceptions. Only build 2779 is stable enough to NOT cause any connectivity problems on MVDSV so...

We can think about a release if bug correction is confirmed...

qw.unsix.net:27501 - Running last MVDSV + KTX FFA with QTV on.


edit: clean up

I can add it but the problem is that mvdsv bugfix didn't quite work as it was supposed to. Annoying shit I have to say.

edit: qw.unsix.net:27501 is not properly configured. The same applies to games02.click21.com.br:27500...

Click21 is not running the last mvdsv! Please list all parameters must be configured.

thx!

Everything needed to know by server admins is posted on the first post of this thread (qtv_streamport, MVDSV version).

We've got a eztv port open at srv23.catchgamer.no:4000
Can you add it to the list?

Added, but you should reconsider making the port according to your normal UDP port. Newer MVDSV wouldn't hurt either.

eztv has been renamed to QTV.

?

Not explanatory enough? I thought it was

I guess i can see the advantages, but it's still weird since the name has been in use for quite some time now, and i assume you have Spike's blessing etc.

actually spike's "qtv" is named FTEQTV

Yes, it's been used quite some time but the name didn't really refer to Quake, so I like QTV better
And since Renzo established himself on #qtv it was only fair to take that name.

Actually, my qtv is only named fteqtv to disabiguate it from other projects like quakeforge's.

QuakeForge's qtv is named 'qtv'.

So yes, the name is already taken, hence fteqtv.

Might I also add that 'eztv' and 'qtv' are both a nightmare to google for? fteqtv is dead easy to find!

But if you guys *really* want to claim to be the one true qtv, and to confuse all the users when they find out that quakeforge's qtv is also called qtv, and that fte's proxy is distributed by the name 'qtvprox.exe' (windows) or 'qtv' (linux) then I really can't stop you from doing so. Even though I think it bigotted. But whatever.

Imho, qtv is a concept, not an implementation. Claiming them to be the same thing is just arrogant.

Might I also point out that the eztv project has no real intention to support any quake clients or servers, only ezquake+mvdsv. Both of which are QuakeWorld, and not Quake. Might I also point out that the name qwtv is not taken in any way, and is much easier to google for? Might I also point out that even if eztv used that name instead, then it would still be a misnomer, because it still does not support the quakeworld protocols either.
eztv is simply a much much more appropriate name for their project.

fteqtv is meant to support Quake clients on QuakeWorld servers. So if you do ignore the quakeforge qtv (who have the same nq/qw goals as fte), then surly it should be fteqtv that should be the one claiming to be called qtv?
Unfortunatly I think I broke the nq support last time I rewrote stuff, which really doesn't help with this particular post... I'm sure I'll fix it up to work properly again after the qw proxy bugs are fixed and shipped (prediction is a pain, k?).


they do not.

Is that the same kind of logic as RATP and SNCF use?

Why not use the most obvious QWTV?

Smile, your on QTV!

I agree, eztv/qtv should be renamed qwtv since the goal of the project isn't to support all of quake's protocols.

Yeah that, or FUtv...

Yet again, what a surprise!
Spike coming out from nowhere to piss on something we do, bigfoot making some obscure comment about god knows what...

Spike: Did we pretend or claimed that QTV/eztv/FUtv was the only real thing out there? Where? We chose a name that was closer to the real idea of the thing that a stupid eztv: OH GOD FORGIVE ME FOR SUCH A MISTAKE!

bigfoot: What the fuck are you talking about? And where is my anti-you autopost hiding gone?!

Seriously, THANK YOU Spike (to please Grumrgrum before he crawls in and ask me to thank his masters) for your advice, next time what don't you just try: "FTEQTV is named like that to avoid confusion with QTV, Quakeforge TV implementation. You guys should find another name or revert to EZTV imo", that could work and would not carry a tone that is a plague in those forums.

And please, why would I need your blessing for? Blessing?! Like Spike or any other is a superior Quake entity spawned on earth to rule the Quake(World) projects around the world (and take over RATP apparently). Stop that freaking egocentrism, all of you.

Now, if I extract the content, QTV is a BAD choice. Agreed (because you explained why). We'll come up with another name, might it be ShittyTV, OurOwnTV (since we only care about mvdsv and ezquake) or any other silly and stupid name that you will not bless anyway. Wait! What about YAWNtv?!

i think vb would like yawnTV

OK, I get it now. You work for RATP or SNCF, right?

Or, why not, phrenTV, sounds nice in my mouth

I just have to ask, but ain't the QuakeForge QTV only a empty directory in their svn?

And with that said, didnt FTEQTV start as FTV?

no, actually I think i'm the only one who called it FTV to spike =\ maybe i'm wrong

Googling "FTV" gives me the dental office in Sweden, might set a proxy up there someday..

is MVDTV better? Since Spike said it is intended for MVDSV only...

(Yes, I am quieter now.)