yea, well r_viewmodelsize 0.X helps that too, and viewsize XXX
it's not hard to resize the model but who plays with r_drawviewmodel 1 anyway? :E

nobodys forcing you to use them.. : /

He asked for some opinions. He got them. Now go play somewhere else.

well q3 is ahead qw in the beauti-race and to snatch some stuff from q3 wouldn't be wrong
silver v-models for starters

Omg, stop teh gfx whine already. Q3 is ugly as shit and will never come close to the raw beauty of 128x128 8bit textures and the quick flashing of brown walls, brown floor, brown sky and brown enemies. Noone plays with r_drawviewmodel 1 anyway, so why bother? :p "But it's nice to see fancy weapon models in movies!" you say. Why is it then that the best movies are those that focus on the frags, not the visual extravaganza? No disrespect to those who make new models, but don't ever, EVER, imply that Q3 is more beautiful than QW! :E

have you seen Mortuality?
a good movie has everything good in it (nice frags, nice models, nice editing and whatnot)

zzz. nice frags, but dull panning intro and that shaft effect is just OMG? I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING?

ok ui, what about "The Boss" by Cyan? Best content in a movie so far with great GFX everything is easily visible.

dudez, r_drawviewmodel 1 is totally rad. i use it

and panning intros must die.

Oh my God!!!! This so fucking, nice, sexy, hot, ultra mega cool!!!

HEY! stop babling about crap
this thread is dedicated to models.

you don't like em, don't use them
you got ideas, share them
you like them, well thank you for that

and more on the faithfull thing since someone was talking about that "old quake feel":
http://www.kolumbus.fi/ruohis/temp/g_rock2_faithfull.jpg
in the image above you can see what i'm going for with my models, i import the original model to max for referense, then i create a new hig detail model of it, then i create good texture cordinates so that if someone doesn't like my textures, he can go ahead and create his own textures.
after that i create my own textures that are in color, highlight and shadow close to the original, but in 24bit and more detail...

now, I havn't qutie yet figured out how to animate md3, so instead i created more models
you know the md3 ammobox models that come with some packs well, i took those, since they are faithfull, and i added even more detail and rounder shapes to them.
http://www.kolumbus.fi/ruohis/temp/ezquake000.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/ruohis/temp/ezquake001.jpg
theese two images are just the first versions, still need to do quite a bit of tweaking...

ye those are cool ruohis, but I have been wondering if making new healthboxes in another shape that square is possible. I've talked to Cheapy about this and he said it was hard since they are some weird modelfile(not .mdl) or something. Ruohis wanna give it a shot?

Why would you want a different shape than a square? its a health BOX ;/

i'm making the ammoboxes into md3, so if needed i could make them look like christmas trees, but first i'm going for faithful, so a square box it is

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http://www.kolumbus.fi/ruohis/temp/detailed_b_models.jpg

still need to model the big shell and nail boxes, but how do you like them so far?
and yes they are very similar to n30g3n3s1s models, with the exeption of 3-4 times more polygons
so what he did with textures i'm doing with the actual model.

but anyways, I did have a question, the rocket packs, the original quake model had 4 rockets, I did that (n30g3n3s1s model had only one big)
but the original big rocketbox had 2 big ones, as i now have done on the model.
But witch is better?

Small rocket box:
1 big rocket or 4 small ones

Big rocket box:
2 big rockets or 8 small ones

damn, it looks so damn hot >> http://www.kolumbus.fi/ruohis/temp/detailed_b_models.jpg

the original is better.

i dunno whats the best looking, but u should go for the same idea for both. both big, or both small. the screenshot looks strange when the rockets are diffrent sizes. otherwise it looks great.

Indeed they look weird, since you don't get 1 or 2 rockets from the packs i think i'll go with the many small rockets, logically it also makes more sense

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http://www.kolumbus.fi/ruohis/temp/finnished_untextured_b_models2.jpg <- as the filname sais it, finnished but untextured
comments please, i won't be doing any changes after i'we done the texture cordinates

heh, the big rocket and nailboxes almost went over the limit (2048 polygons)

Thoese look awesome! Wish they would pass f_modified though :/

Very nice!!!

http://www.kolumbus.fi/ruohis/temp/texturing.jpg

my progress today... so far so good, half of the models are textured, well actually finnished the cordinates for the small health boxes but havn't yet created the actual texture.
theese models will be out soon, with any luck for the weekend, will have a few users thest them first when they are finnished, then pack em, wrap em and upload for everyone to download.
tested the ones that are textured ingame and they look really good

small rockets and like 4 of them looks cool
looks nice but some different style to the healthboxes? I know its a box, but like more round would be cool

Round healthboxes? Stop destroying Quake

I've always loved your grenade launcher g and v models.
In my opinion they are your best work.

A more "metallic" skin would make them even better, though.
Maybe even take advantage of modern bumpmapping and such to give it a shiny look.

Even as it is, though, they are excellent.

Cracking models man!!

My only comment would be the green texture on both NIN and shotty shells, a tad confusing. Your average qw player will know just by where they are on a map but for looks wouldn't it be better if they could be distiquished more easily?

A dum question comming but couldn't anything be done about f_modified since ammo and armour models aren't gunna help peeps cheat?
Is there anyway to allow models that fit within given boundries, height, width etc or is f_modified unchangeable?

how rotten do you want the small health pack?

a bit too much?

I didn't say round as in globe-shaped, I meant like more edges or some craters or whatnot, maybe like the mega.
those are cool ruohis, not too much at all. Maybe make a hole in the smaller one?

you mean like this?

and if so that won't be first on my priority, sorry, just finnishing with the b_models and then it's on to g_models, then people have requested powerups and all that... and all faithfull, and round just isn't quake
maybe later

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Now that i had 10s to think about it, a full round model set would be something?
all boxes would look the same, but different images? i'll bet there would be someone who would like that, but as i said, maybe later...

everything is great the models look HOT but its sad that they wont pass f_modified so 24bit textures to old weapon models would be nice thing to see

Great Job Ruohis

my god this is just fantastic