It should be working correcly =). A-A-S commited some more fixes lately but the functionality has been there for a while now, feedback welcomed. What vid_wideaspect does is recaluculates (with Renzos wiki formula) your 4:3 fov and conheight but keeps your settings intact so you are able to load other configs or use fov values similar to a person with a 4:3 screen.

/\ that is so freakin' sweet!

There's your QW.nu Samsung SM2233RZ review.

Got my Viewsonic 2268WM today and I have to say that I'm very pleased with the result. Had some problems with weird fps drops earlier in the evening, but I don't think it was related, maybe just hadn't noticed it with my 60hz tft (my old better gaming tft was broken when I hooked it up for this comeback).

Maybe would have been nicer to have it fullhd + 22". I don't know what size tables ppl have or what they play, but to me it feels like I can barely get this 22" screen back far enough for efficient qw gaming.* In addition, many 24" screens have quite big stands, which complicates issues even further. Oh well, I have another screen for full-hd anyway and this screen is pretty much for qw only, mainly since I don't play any other games that require 120hz really.


* although in all fairness I play with my keyboard and mouse quite far on the table, with my elbows on the table as well

Edit: oh, and the price point is currently at ~300e which has me thinking that the next generation is already coming soon (or already here?)

I'm contemplating getting the Viewsonic 2268WM as well as it has finally dropped in price (~£200). Currently I'm using an old (Jan 1998!) 17" CRT for QW as my 75hz TFT doesn't really cut it.
The problem is however I'm finding it difficult to justify the expense, as I already have a 22" TFT, and in everything except for QW that is pretty much fine. If only the monitor was bigger than I would have snapped it up.

The other worry of course is how I will feel if I buy it and discover it's still worse than my CRT due to input lag, response time, and the slightly reduced refresh rate (120hz vs 154hz).

I actually noticed there are two more reviews of the 2268, here and here.

What I found the most interesting is that 2268wm has slightly higher measured input lag than 2233rz (7ms/21ms/14ms vs 4ms/20ms/12ms (min/max/avg)) but slightly better image and response time.

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Just to add I did get the monitor in the end, it seems OK for QW albeit not perfect. Quite a big premium to pay for 120hz though as aside from that it is seemingly no better than cheaper 24" 1080p panels.

Have any of the giants of duel quakeworld tested out these 120hz monitors? bps any more updates on how it is working for you?

HT: You sound rather disappointed. Would you buy it again?

Ihminen, blAze and Diki have one each.

Yeah I have had ViewSonic Fuhzion since christmas and I honestly can't say I'm at any disadvantage compared to 154hz crt I had before. And I'm really picky about these things... For movies etc it's terrible though but for gaming it's really good.

There's nothing more to say. It's just perfect imo.

blaze, could You explain a bit more: terrible for movies, plz ?

I'm considering ViewSonic or Samsung my self...

There is massive backlight leakage from all sides so darker parts in movies look very bad.

That's your typical TN-crap. Fortunately Samsung 2233rz has limited bleeding only to lower part of the screen (at least my monitor does) so it's not that bad. Unfortunately the evenness of the backlight is not so great.

There are only very few TN displays that have very limited backlight bleeding. If you want quality panel, then you go for IPS, PVA or MVA, but even this will not guarantee the lack of backlight bleeding (but usually it's considerably less). Unfortunately none of the quality panels are as good for QW as 120Hz TN is due to higher response time and higher input lag (usually).

Yeah, I think Ihminen's Samsung has way less bleeding than my ViewSonic, so I think I'd go for Samsung because otherwise they seem equal. If you wanna enjoy movies you'd get a 50" plasma anyway. For gaming, these are perfect.

There is a new 120hz lcd monitor out thats do full hd
Acer GD235HZ 120Hz 23.6" 1920x1080 LCD
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1466381

it has a new revision: GD245HQ, at least in Europe.
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/252940/acer-gd245hqbid.html#tab:info
and here: http://www.acer.nl/acer/productv.do?LanguageISOCtxParam=nl&kcond61e.c2att101=73732&sp=page16e&ctx2.c2att1=3&link=ln438e&CountryISOCtxParam=NL&ctx1g.c2att92=185&ctx1.att21k=1&CRC=2210658028

it is actually an interesting update for me (coming from a really good 20" WS - Samsung 206BW). upgrading 20" for 22" is a bit......23.6" sounds more interesting.

There's actually a review of the GD245HQ on digital-versus site.

Check out the graphs too. Worth noticing:

- Huge inputlag of 50ms on one frame! Average input lag of 18ms is more than with Fuhzion or 2233rz
- Backlight not even (expected result)
- Viewing angles suck (the bigger the screen, the bigger the effect, especially when looking at edges)

+ Colors are "ok" after calibration
+ Even faster response time than with the previous 120Hz TFTs (less ghosting)

apparently there's 2nd ViewSonic - 23.6" - with 120Hz: ViewSonic® V3D241wm-LED coming out soon.

this review mentioned the input lag on average of a single frame, but combined with a very good responsiveness they claim its a very good monitor for gaming. dunno what to say...I'll just wait for the new ViewSonic...really don't like the idea of upgrading to only 22"

"this review" ?

Input lag of one frame at 120Hz would be 8,3ms, which is acceptable if it's the average. But if they report it as one frame at 60Hz (16,7ms), then it's definitely worse.

yes, the review You linked to: in the Responsiveness: record breaking section...tho they don't say at what Hz. anyway, will still wait for the new, big ViewSonic.

Yes I'd buy it again... but only because there isn't much competition, there are very few high refresh monitors you can actually buy new now that CRTs have been pretty much phased out.

The fact it is smaller than a CRT is of course a 'nice to have', I run it alongside an older 75hz 22" TFT which is nice for desktop work etc, plenty of space. I can run fullscreen QW and have IRC/Mumble etc on the other panel. I wouldn't be able to fit a 22" CRT on the desk alongisde a TFT.

TFT is way more 'practical' than CRT for nearly everything except hardcore gaming and 120hz helps to narrow the gap on that front, so it's a decent compromise.

som insider info! : ] (note the name..)

"Hi,

Sorry to have delayed an answer to your question.

Today we have a model that is capable of 120Hz (CG232W). This model is designed for demanding users in editing / Post Production of TV and film.

For the consumer market will be another type of screen that is capable of 120Hz, it will forward the summer of this year.


Regards / Best Regards
Per Hertz
Senior Sales & Product Director
Eizo Europe AB
Tel: +46 8 594 105 00
Fax: +46 8 590 915 75
Mobile: +46 705 10 10 66"

The CG232W is a nice monitor with a high-quality IPS panel... BUT, it also costs well over 7,000 EUR. Let's wait 'til summer then and hope that Eizo gives an affordable 120 Per-Hertz consumer monitor with anything but a TN panel. =)

http://www.eizo.com/global/products/coloredge/cg232w/index.html
this page mentions black frame insertion in 120hz mode

http://www.sony.se/biz/view/ShowProduct.action?product=BVM-L231

the dream is alive -__-

I bought a Acer 24" GD245HQ screen yesterday and arrived today. Just hooked it up and everything seem to be working ok from the box.

First thing i did was trying to setup qw config. 1920x1080 120hz. Seems ultra smooth except that every couple seconds the it "feels like i have fps drops... and you get a little stutter" but on 100hz its completely gone.

I have installed latest ati 10.3 drivers and didnt had much impact. Its connected with the dvi dual link cable that was included with the monitor. I am playing around a bit trying to solve this but going from 75 to 100 is already day and night.



-edit- 120hz seems to work fine in cod6.

Tried different configs and clients. No effect


Unable to fix, it also seems to give some artifects (green/blue) textures on some edges after turning off/on monitor its gone.

Gonna return it for RMA and replace it with the Samsung.

what about 2233rz + ATI cards, how is it going nowadays?? I've read all kinds of weird problems from this combo 4xxx/5xxx series.. specially when trying to get 120hz at lower resulutions ..