does anyone know the difference between Kombat Teams respawn modes and KTPro respawn modes?

telefrags, i think

i don't think so zanno

Kombat Teams Respawn Types

Kombat Teams respawns differs from the normal QW respawns (also available in the patch) in that they spawn players on a spawnpoint even though someone else is occupying it. There's exceptions to this rule however, a player that has just spawned is considered a no spawn-target for 120 gameticks and a player can never spawn on the same spot twice in a row (unless the map contains less than 2 spawnpoints or all spawnpoints are full).

For the first 3 seconds of a match, Kombat Teams respawns will attempt to avoid spawnfrags entirely (note that this is only for the spawntype "Kombat Teams respawns". To have yourself spawned at what you consider to be a bad spawn before the match starts as not to get there won't work, the patch doesn't take pregame spawns into account. This type of respawns is by default enabled in KT since the patch's main function is to handle teamgames and we don't want any camping on important spots (like RA on dm4 for example).

With the release of version 2.07, "KT SpawnSafety" was introduced. KT SpawnSafety means to avoid telefrags during games as much as possible (even if all spawnpoints are full) and tries to avoid spawning you at the same spot twice in a row.

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now tell me, how is KTPro different?

KTPro doesnt allow you to spawn in the same place twice in a row; which is the main difference i can see between KTX and KTPro

same thing with KT spawns dirtbox

Not True. Both spawn models that come with KTX you can spawn in the same spot unlimited times in a row. When Venom and I was testing KTX I spawned in one spot 4 times in a row and then 2 times in a row at another spot straight afterwards. This doesn't happen in either spawn modem in KTPro

are you SURE you used KT spawn model because if you read this document it's quite clear that you can't spawn in the same place several times

http://f.nu/ktx/!spawns_ktx-en.txt

i cant get this to work with winxp :/

it worked for me!

and what do you guys think about a RA game type in TKX?

if anything, clan arena

rocket arena cant be played on same maps as dm/ctf

midair neither

RA mode can be set for only a certain group of maps!

i think this ctf/ra/ca/frogbot/whatever modes everyone is asking for should be put at the bottom of the priority list

when everything else is done and runs smoothly, they can start working on it

we REALLY don't need a replacement for the rocket arena/clan arena/ctf/tf/whatever mods, we need a KTPro replacement

I'm not saying this should be done right now! I'm asking what you think about it!

I don't know nothing about RA in Europe, but back here in Brazil there are no RA servers left and a RA game type for KTX, could be a good alternative.

Ctf \o/

yeah i guess if clan arena was put in, rocket arena would not be too far fetched

This was using the version of KTX that JohNny_cz posted in this thread. We tried both spawn models.

i thought it would be very easy to run a server with bots.
me and my mates used to play against bots in year 98 or something.

2006-03-11 [ver 1.08]
74. Fixed spawn code, thx wit'ka and gLAd.

does KTX have some basic CTF included?
basic CTF = keys as flags, no hook (flags with autoplacement on all maps..)

it would be awesome because you'd switch to CTF without quitting the current server for a CTF only server

it does not support auto placement, they have to add support for each map

you can choose to use quake models instead of the ctf models, but ctf sounds are required.

KTX ctf support is pretty much complete. It is up to the server admin if they want to use a custom ctf pak file or standard models. With standard models the flags will be keys, etc. Players can actually copy the flag.mdl to the key model name and see real flags even if server is using keys. If you join a KTX server and start to download some models.. just setinfo drate 99999 and wait 30 seconds. The total package is quite small.

CTF is a completely dynamic usermode just like all of the others.
/e2m2
/ctf
Now you want to play tdm on e2m2? /4on4
No server or map restart required..

Currently all ctf maps are supported as well some id maps which should be on all servers: e1m7, e2m1, e2m2, and e2m5. I will be adding support for the other id maps in the future, but I have to make some changes for these maps to be dynamic before I do so. For instance 2on2 ctf on dm4 or dm6 can be quite fun, but traditionally there are some changes such as YA at dm6 red base to make it fair, etc.

Also of note, for anyone who has played pure ctf before you may have noticed that ctf physics were badly broken.. accell jumps basically didn't work at all among other things. Now ctf physics are exactly the same as dm physics which imo makes ktx ctf quite a bit better than pure ctf..

clan-sm.dk:27500 is running ktx now

How stable is this? Would there be a huge benefit to change Wargamez over to KTX? Is it stable enough to be running on such an important server?

U can replace only one port - for testing.

I think KTX is stable and playable.

About benefit, KTX have few nice features, but also lack few small or not so small things. Before switching to KTX (on such important server!) we need serious testing, so we can spot things which need to be fixed/added asap.
Generally this things belong to prewar.

Empezar search such things and report us (developers), but we still need FEDBACK!
So play KTX servers, and report.

ive been playing most of my 4on4/1on1/2on2 games on KTX since i found out about it, and i haven't noticed anything unstable about it

ive been running a private KTX 1on1 server in daily use and havn't found any problems

in my opinion... i wouldnt change on all wargames.. because!, new version comes everyday.. (correct me if im wrong) better to w8 alittle .. but its my opinion... but ktx is stable enough for wargames no doubt.. ktx is the future :>

thx ultimo for the ctf implementation. i must say it rocks! and thx for clearing things out as some ppl said /ctf + /map didnt work. and yeah, go for dm6/4 conversion its very cool, when its ready maybe open a ctf 2on2 tournment would be cool, just a though

imo the priorities for ktx would be:
1. ktpro replacement with stats and some advanced stuff
2. complete ctf
3. implement clan arena
4. implement midair
5. implement rocket arena


i think thats it. have fun playing in ktx!




pspen source is beautiful!

Is there a 'classic' CTF mode without runes and hook? Would like to try that. Or at least without hook and with runes spawning in a fixed place and with a timelimit (like regular powerups).