What do you base this on? I haven't measured but I would think that buttons on my Logitech UltraX flat have a shorter distance to travel to the actuation point than my cherry mx brown keyboards, that way it would theoretically react faster to my movement...

That term is used. Not to do with width, but with form factor as i said.

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Okey, wasn't aware that it was a "standard" Just want to make people aware that there's also keyboards out ther with smaller sized keys so they don't mistakenly buy one of these, but make sure it says like "full sized keys".

I tried notebook keyboard, other normal keyboards and the mechanical cherry mx red. I think that it is a little bit more complicated than just distance to actuation point. Notebooks keyboards are the shortest possible distance and they just suck.

If you don't need numpad on your keyboard, I can wholeheartedly recommend Corsair Vengeance K65. It's mechanical (don't know what color, fruit, or animal the keys are called), super sturdy built, and takes up less space on your desk. At least I always found it a bit annoying to have my arms in a slightly widened arc while playing.

Also it got no gimmicky buttons, except for mute, disable windows button button and volume up/down.



By far the best keyboard I've ever had. The price is a bit steep, but nothing too frightening I think.

that one has cherry mx switches. just remove a key and see what color the switch is.
mine is brown


and yep, TKL (80%) keyboards are good for fps as they are smaller

I use a Filco majestouch-2 with blue switches.

After using it for a couple of years, it's still in perfect condition. However, I would not recommend blue switches for FPS gaming. It's lovely for any kind of RTS though, and typing is amazing. I can honestly sit and just spam the keys because I love the feeling and the sound is music to my ears. But, as the actuation point is lower than the release point, you really need to let go of the key completely in order to actually release the button. In the beginning, this caused me to think that I released the button, but my character would still e.g strafe left, even though it felt like I stopped strafing. Also, the loud sound that this keyboard generates could be disturbing for FPS gaming.

I love my keyboard, but I would probably recommend brown or red switches for Quake. Possibly black as well, but brown and red mainly. Although, as Mushi said, it's entirely personal what you prefer.

Yeah I was about to purchase this one, but i got the full sized version with the numpad which is K70.

Might get myself a K65 with red keys then... no need for a numpad that I can think of!

Anyone got experience with red keys vs brown keys?

consider black aswell

search for youtube videos on differences about the switches (sound)

red are the softest, not much force needed to activate the key
black are thoughest, more force needed to activate the key
brown are in between red and black.

LOADS of info on the interwebs about this....

edit: new cherry switch mx silent

As mushi says, just note that red and black are linear switches while brown is tactile.

So I did some research, and found my HP keyboard is so-called rubber dome. Gonna get me the one Rikoll has. I did some googling red vs. brown, and seems like red is the obvious choice when only doing fps gaming, no rts gaming or typing.

Ordered now, so watch out, div1-erlend soon coming to a server near you!

Nice! Feel free to kick my butt when you get it!

Rubberdome is basically the standard non-mechanical keyboard.

The biggest difference between red and black switches is that the brown ones are tactile. Tactile keys are amazing when typing or pressing the keys a lot as they "bump" back in an amazing way. However, resting your fingers on WASD in a fps game might be easier on red switches.

I type so damn much daily and I play RTS games so blue/brown is the way to go for me as I love the tactile feeling.

Welcome to the mechanical keyboard club though! You're never leaving :-D

Very interesting Rikoll... I was just planning on buying this keyboard (kogan is an Australian brand) because I wanted less space taken up on my small desk... and your post about the corsair has sold me on it.
AUD$77 = 51eu

The keyboard has Cherry MX Brown. I recently helped dEF build his new mega-pc and he got this insanely over the top keyboard with Cherry MX Brown and I tried it out and was quite taken with it.

Mouse (what mouse,hertz, using drivers or no drivers, dpi settings?): Logitech G402, logitech drivers
Mousepad : Razer Mantis Speed
Sensitivity settings (cm/360 , settings in qw client, settings in windows) : 20cm/360
Operating system : windows 10
Ezquake or other client? version? : ezquake 2.2
cl_maxfps : 630
cl_earlypackets :1
sys_highpriority :
Gameresolution ? 1920x1080 or other? etc :
FOV :
Monitor that you are using, and what refreshrate, using lightboost? : Benq XL2410T 120hz no lightboost
m_yaw and m_pitch settings? : 0.022
in_mouse 1/2/3 ? : 3



me about to play

Tried my Corsair MX Red yesterday. Dunno if I'll get any better at QW with it, but I won't hurt, that's for sure. It feels very responsive, no need to push hard, seems this is a winner. It's like the old keyboard had a delay on the keys that's now gone.

Nice! Cant wait until i get my hands On my keyboard!!

Nice! Cant wait until i get my hands On my keyboard!!

the best keboards for gaming are the filco majestuch keybords i recommend brown or red switches they are best for gaming
but they cost around 240 euros
http://www.amazon.de/Filco-Majestouch-2-Profi-Tastatur-Switches/dp/B00BM5ZO5I/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1448226050&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=filco+majestuch+brown+switch+keboard

something like that abit cheaper atm i got 2 of those but i gave one away to a friend

I've got Filco Majestouch-2 with the blue switches (I wish I had bought brown switches though). It cost €100, bought from the UK. That's without shipping though.

Is it mechanical keyboards ppl have when you hear them rattle about like hell in TS sometimes?
Do they make alot of sound?

The majority do and it's the best sound ever

Might be problematic for me then since the wife is trying to sleep in the next room

yep. definatly do not buy blue if you want silence =)
brown make a bit of noise, and red are quieter. You can add o-rings to the keys to make them quieter.

there's even a new cherry silent switch,

greets andyy im using the brown switches filco 2 atm and yes its awsome DDDD 100 euro thats really good i got my brown and limited red edition from a forum. that guy bought them from japan this was like 5 or 6 years ago and i payed way to much

I'd recommend against using o-rings for gaming. In my experience, the friction from holding movement keys down (especially in quake) erodes the o-ring and the resulting dust gets inside the switch and makes it malfunction. The damage can be reversed by cleaning the switch using the "straw method". They work fine for typing though.