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What level of ping whiner are you? Select the lowest ping bracket you will play with and not whine. (Assuming you have Antilag and a similarly pinged opponent.) - A 12-19ms
- B 20-38ms
- C 39-75ms
- D 76-105ms
- E 106-140ms
- F 141-165ms
- G 166ms
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E on similar ping opponent never argue with an idiot. they'll bring you back to their level and then beat you with experience.
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Quite a margin in C option. I would say 50ms is still somewhat playable "out-of-the-box" when you are used to 13-26ms. 39ms vs 75ms are day/night for me personally. Go beyond 50ms and I think one needs days of practice to play even 70% of his normal lpb level.
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Quite a margin in C option. I would say 50ms is still somewhat playable "out-of-the-box" when you are used to 13-26ms. 39ms vs 75ms are day/night for me personally. Go beyond 50ms and I think one needs days of practice to play even 70% of his normal lpb level. I can play up to 65ms (Amsterdam to Russian servers) without needing too much adjustment.... I play a bit in New York which is 100ms (give or take 5ms) and that takes a bit more adjustment but I find the key to doing it is to practice the dm2 stair jump until i get used to the difference and then within 5minutes i am used to it. I actually find going back down to low ping after high ping harder...
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I have had fiberoptical since 2002 so it's kinda hard to play with anything higher than 25ms as it's very uncommon. nowadays however i play some on uk servers where i get 38ms. It feels bad but it's ok
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A and I still whine. One has to find excuses for defeats.
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G against a noobie, A against anybody who is not a noobie
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B for me. Anything above 38ms feels so bad for me doesn't work with my playstyle whatsoever
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C but I usually have D or E so I whine alot
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G.
As long as it's stable. No PL, no giant spikes to 240+! I'd be the happiest player in QW no matter what my ping is just as long as it was stable. :p
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Totally what Phil said; it depends what the stakes are.
C when competitive. G when not competitive.
Also, I find it disturbing that some of my most played ping levels are not even on this list, meanwhile I cannot even get ping in categories A-B. G should read "166ms+". Americans, Brazilians, and Canadians often play in the 200-230 range.
(Edited 2014-05-28, 03:24)
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Are we talking in competition here, or just practice duels? Also, that C band is a bit wide.
If I'm signed up to a tournament, I'll play any ping that's required of me (assuming it's stable) as long as it's equal to the other guy's. I probably wouldn't sign up to a tournament where I would reasonably expect to play more than one game over 100ms, though. So D I guess.
For fun games, I have to play 51 a lot because it's hard to get Scandinavians to play west of Denmark, but, in an ideal world, I wouldn't play over B.
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C, but the whining real limit is 59,999 ms anything above 60+ I'm allowed to whine! =D (QW Nickname: AL.Kernell)
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It depends on many diffferent things for me. Anything up to 38 is fine in pretty much every case. 52 feels like the limit where it will start having a major affect on the gameplay. I dislike the thought of having to ping up to 52 or higher when playing someone from Europe who can't get a better ping due to his poor connection. However I'd probably accept even higher than 52 or 64ms without whine or frustration when playing a player from a different continent. Or if a tournament has a gimmick that you need to play with 100+ ms then sure, I don't have a quarrel with the ping. Also my biggest concern is unstable ping and PL and not the amount of ping itself.
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my biggest concern is unstable ping and PL and not the amount of ping itself. You've just said it all !!! If I had to choose between: ping 13-50 (varying randomly) OR ping 100 (STEADY) I would probably prefer (get used) to 100 STEADY! It's the same issue with MOUSE ACCELERATION (but WORSE, becouse m_accel is not random). For me, m_accel & varying-ping are BRAIN VIRUSES (your brain never get used to it). You will never be good... (QW Nickname: AL.Kernell)
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For me, m_accel & varying-ping are BRAIN VIRUSES (your brain never get used to it). You will never be good... Some of the very best Quake 3/Live players use mouse acceleration. It has fewer benefits in quakeworld, though. There is less need for alternating between rapid turning and long-distance precision in our game.
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Quake 3/Live players I've stopped reading at "3", and "Live"... kkkkkkk =D (QW Nickname: AL.Kernell)
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D, since playing in the UK/Paris only nets me ~105 ping or so and it's not that hard to adjust, but it's definitely a pain in the ass to then go to a NY server and try playing with 25 ping again.
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