17 September post::
I know you are all cool guys, so all this isn't really necessary for me to mention but I will anyways.
It's REALLY important that you be on your best behavior and have a friendly cool atmosphere in both in-game chat and that you take the mm3 chat serious but at the same time are friendly to each other.
It's looking like, but not decided yet, we will be hosted on the twitch frontpage for the event - and with the ability for the casters to hop into your mm3 while the game is going on we DON'T want the first word for 50k+ people to hear when they hop in to be "fuxk X person sucks", or some kind of whine about whatever =)
I'm leaving it up to the captains to decide what map who will play on. A tip might be to actually have a list ready - and talk about the setup the hour or so you have before showtime so that everyone knows when they will play.
It's up to Andeh and the casters to give the OK to start a match. Perhaps he will say something about how the match will be structured before game start. if there will be breaks between each map or if he wants you to start asap or how he wants it.
You players need to be a bit like slaves when it comes to the schedule after 18:00 cet.
I'm sure Andeh will be reasonable if there are toilet breaks or burning houses etc.. just be sure to tell him!
Perhaps having the captains being the LAST to ready up would be a good way to do it, and having the captains ask if "casters ready?" and then andeh replies "ready" or similar before the captains ready up.
I would suggest alternating tb3 and cmt-
Perhaps this map order: dm3,cmt3,dm2,cmt4, e1m2 is a good way to go about it? As we start and end with something you all know veery well, and there is some history behind e1m2 decider.
Remember to test your teamspeak settings!!!
Ty, GLGG manner on, lets show the best of QW!
Do NOT be late!
And for us that all ready play QW, be friendly and nice to anyone asking questions in chat. Try to answer them if you can and ignore any trolling that might happen. :p
*crosses fingers we get frontpage and that a random person watches and decides to try qw =)
Community effort people!! Lets do this!
7'th September post: everything is coming togheter, we have the teams and dates finalized. I'll write a short news post by Wednesday with everything. Clear you schedule for for 20'th September 19:00 -> 21:00 cet =)
Now we just have to spread the word. I've emailed some big names, if they reply or read it i have no idea. Check out Carmacks, Romero, Thresh and twitch.tv twitters, maybe something pops up, or maybe it doesn't
I'm going to compose a general request for online mags - you guys go facebook/twitter/tumbler/imger/4chan or whatever its called plese =)
2'nd September post::
Now for my probably final post on this thread - and this is just for the players/casters:
There will be one final IRC chat this Sunday 6'th September in #qwallstars around 20:00 CET (come before 20:00)
**Make sure you have the scheduling link - i'm missing 3-4 players from the draft selected to still to fill it out + some from the general participating players - if you have no idea what i'm talking about when i say scheduling link - You are missing it***
We will be finalizing all the details of the show match and the Questions that will be brought up on the last chat are:
1. Finalize who will be playing on what team.
2: Agree on the final matchdate..
3: What maps will be played, should we include two extra maps? Also if you are doing a basic best of five, or if you want to play a full series no matter what the scoreline is.
4: If there will be any ping rules.
5: Should we try set a practice date for you guys to group up and get abit familiar with each other.
6: I need to give you ip/password to the mumble server/private channels.
Alternatively if most are against using mumble, and want to use teamspeak instead, I'll have to go looking for a teamspeak server.
8: Does the cast need/want information on each individual player - should ocoini try to gather this, or can we find someone with more experience?
7: If there is anything you want to suggest/complaints/last wishes.
(Alternatively you can answer the questions here - It will be hard to give feedback to you if you have any concerns or opinions on the forum - but it will be mentioned in the chat if you write it here.)
The final information on the tournament will be given as a newspost on quakeworld.nu - and will be also be delivered on IRC if you come talk to me in #qwallstars - if you need to talk to the head caster it's in #suddendeath - and you'll be looking for Andeh!
Righty, see you on Sunday - Good luck with the Allstars everyone!
Older posts, defunct, otu of odrer under here::
Today we had a mock draft - and we are looking for feedback on these teams:
T1: Carapace, Rikoll, Razor, Paradoks, Meshuggah, : Backup: Wimpeeh
T2: Milton, BPS, KingPin, Diki, MM : Backup : Maga
Are we missing a player?
How does the team composition look like - should we move some players around?
Should we make bigger teams to give the teams more options for the games?
For comparison here are the players not selected, SO FAR:
Blood Dog, Åke Vader, Trygve, Raket ,Rio ,LethalWiz ,Kip, Sane, NIW, Predator, Andeh, norules.
A problem Carapace and Milton had while picking was it becomes fairly difficult to evaluate current skill level of players and comparing X player skill to Y. So it's REALLY helpful if you guys can give feedback! Also with explanations of why X is better on Y
There is nothing in the way of bringing in X player on X map, because this is a really good map for X person - even though he's not overall better than Y person. Etc... But it has to be some kind of in balance with the overall teams as well! (so yes, its complicated.)
Schedule right now and going forward - We will use the time from now until next week to evaluate the teams - By next Sunday the teams should be set in stone (after the weekend starting on 28'th August)- After this we will have two weeks for practice and for me to organize suitable match date for the players.
Please give feedback! Thank you!
... more to come ...
(i'd still like feedback on player skill, bottom of this post for more info)
Discussion about maps:
Milton made a suggestion about playing more maps - something akin to tb3 + two none tb3.
I made a suggestion that each team could pick one none- tb3 map if they would like.
Carapace pointed out that people might not be interested in seeing this?
Input?
Would you guys be interested in seeing them play on other maps than tb3?
Another poll perhaps ?
Currently working on:
Gathering casters, sorting teams.
Completed: Gathering players, organize mumble server- (Thanks Fro!), Found main caster - Sudden Death TV.
Future work (anyone can help out) :
Write Article for on qw.nu,
Out of my ability: Overlay/graphics/audio for an eventual draft/good looking stream/broadcast setup.
Short basic game play rules for players.
Inform players of Mumble server with passwords. + Make sure they know how to turn off "JOIN channel ding".
Set a date for the actual match. (Somewhere in September.)
Create hype!
Organizing a best of 5 Allstars game for late summer/Early Autumn. The match should consist of the 10 best active and semi-active 4on4 players we have in QuakeWorld right now.
Clarification: This will be mixed teams with the top 10 players! =)
Players will first be asked if they are interested in participating.
Even if you declare interest it's not sure you will be playing if we get more than 10 players - as we will limit the pool to the 10 best. (I'm not going to randomly pick 10 players, I'll try to get input and help from the players to get as close to "top 10" as we can. Posting in this thread is a nice way to give feedback on the teams when we get that far, otherwise we are in #qwallstars ). There is no first come first serve - but at a certain point, when we are beginning to form the teams, it will be to late to join.
I'm imagining the best date for this match will be right when EQL signup is about to start, to make some hype and spark some interest. And the teams are formed roughly two weeks before the match.
I'd like everyones help to contact and sort out the player list, and making two teams that would provide a nice set of entertaining games.
If we could narrow the list down to 10 players that would be nice.
Most likely using MM3 in some form is going to be required. (It would be cute for an eventual live-stream/recording if we could take a quick "sneak listen" in game as the game is going on.) But anything to do with MM3 is up to the players of course and the eventual casters.
Heres the suggestion list of players so far:
(Feel free to suggest more. We only need people that come on IRC; so we can contact them, and/or that will be reliable in showing up for an eventual prac with their team and the match it self!
If you were one of the players that had problems showing up for the draft this spring and you want to play, we need some kind of an assurance that you will infact commit this time.)
Player Pool:
Need to contact: Nitram, Xantom, Knave, Xterm, Ganon, Bulat, SS, Murzik, Shaka, Dimman, Hell, Creature, SS, Greco, Heddan, , x,x,x,x...
Interest:
Carapace confirmed interest.
Blood Dog confirmed interest.
Milton confirmed interest.
Åke Vader confirmed interest.
Trygve confirmed interest.
Kingpin confirmed interest.
Raket confirmed interest.
BPS confirmed interest.
Rio confirmed interest.
LethalWiz confirmed interest.
Kip confirmed interest.
Razor confirmed interest.
Paradoks confirmed interest.
Sane confirmed interest.
NIW confirmed interest.
RST confirmed interest.
Rikoll confirmed interest.
Diki confirmed interest.
Predator confirmed interest.
Andeh confirmed interest.
Wimpeeh confirmed interest.
norules confirmed interest.
Maga confirmed interest.
Meshuggha confirmed interest.
MM confirmed interest.
Declined: Crazymac, Overflow, BogoJoker, Ihminen, XN, Rst, Culkey
Regarding date, yes, I know it's kinda hard to say yes to something when your not sure when it is. There's two things we can do. Either we set a date straight away, or we wait until we have two teams ready to go. I'm more in favor of waiting til we have two teams set, as it's easier to find a free date for 10 people than 20+ or what we get. And i'd rather have the best sign up, than not signup because they don't know if they can. Everyone should have two-three hours free at some point =)
There's also a possibility of having backup players, but if we (against all odds) manage to actually balance two teams, it would be a shame to throw that out the window.
drop by #qwallstars
//A Sunday Spawnfraggin' Adminerinos, and SuddenDeathTV project!
Organizers last posts:
We've had three chats about the state of the 4on4 All Stars - Here's what we have agreed to so far:
On the 21'th there will be a mock draft on IRC. Carapace and Milton will most likely be the assigned captains for the two teams -
(Depending slightly on their attendance - if they are not online on the 21'st there could be replacements.)
So 21'st will most likely be the final deadline - for any stragglers.
Two teams will be selected with six members each. There will be five main players and a backup player for each team.
Once the two teams are selected there will be a few days available for discussion of the teams. Where the players look over the fairness of the two sides, aiming for balanced teams as well as evaluating if the selected players are actually the best players in the pool.
(So if you're not selected or if you are puzzled why your favorite 4on4'ers aren't on the teams this will be your chance to voice your concern.)
If however any type of draft situation falls by people not being able to show or not showing interest in sorting out teams I ask all participants to rank this list of players by their overall 4on4 skill:
- Either put but numbers behind their names (with 1 being the highest skill), or arrange the list by putting the best on top of the list. And PM me either here or on IRC with the link.
Carapace
Blood Dog
Milton
Åke Vader
Trygve
Kingpin
Raket
BPS
Rio
LethalWiz
Kip
Razor
Paradoks
Sane
NIW
Rikoll
Diki
Predator
Andeh
Wimpeeh
norules
Maga
Meshugga
MM
Once the teams are selected we will begin looking for a free date for the actual match.
(Edited 2015-09-17, 07:26)
I know you are all cool guys, so all this isn't really necessary for me to mention but I will anyways.
It's REALLY important that you be on your best behavior and have a friendly cool atmosphere in both in-game chat and that you take the mm3 chat serious but at the same time are friendly to each other.
It's looking like, but not decided yet, we will be hosted on the twitch frontpage for the event - and with the ability for the casters to hop into your mm3 while the game is going on we DON'T want the first word for 50k+ people to hear when they hop in to be "fuxk X person sucks", or some kind of whine about whatever =)
I'm leaving it up to the captains to decide what map who will play on. A tip might be to actually have a list ready - and talk about the setup the hour or so you have before showtime so that everyone knows when they will play.
It's up to Andeh and the casters to give the OK to start a match. Perhaps he will say something about how the match will be structured before game start. if there will be breaks between each map or if he wants you to start asap or how he wants it.
You players need to be a bit like slaves when it comes to the schedule after 18:00 cet.
I'm sure Andeh will be reasonable if there are toilet breaks or burning houses etc.. just be sure to tell him!
Perhaps having the captains being the LAST to ready up would be a good way to do it, and having the captains ask if "casters ready?" and then andeh replies "ready" or similar before the captains ready up.
I would suggest alternating tb3 and cmt-
Perhaps this map order: dm3,cmt3,dm2,cmt4, e1m2 is a good way to go about it? As we start and end with something you all know veery well, and there is some history behind e1m2 decider.
Remember to test your teamspeak settings!!!
Ty, GLGG manner on, lets show the best of QW!
Do NOT be late!
And for us that all ready play QW, be friendly and nice to anyone asking questions in chat. Try to answer them if you can and ignore any trolling that might happen. :p
*crosses fingers we get frontpage and that a random person watches and decides to try qw =)
Community effort people!! Lets do this!
7'th September post: everything is coming togheter, we have the teams and dates finalized. I'll write a short news post by Wednesday with everything. Clear you schedule for for 20'th September 19:00 -> 21:00 cet =)
Now we just have to spread the word. I've emailed some big names, if they reply or read it i have no idea. Check out Carmacks, Romero, Thresh and twitch.tv twitters, maybe something pops up, or maybe it doesn't
I'm going to compose a general request for online mags - you guys go facebook/twitter/tumbler/imger/4chan or whatever its called plese =)
2'nd September post::
Now for my probably final post on this thread - and this is just for the players/casters:
There will be one final IRC chat this Sunday 6'th September in #qwallstars around 20:00 CET (come before 20:00)
**Make sure you have the scheduling link - i'm missing 3-4 players from the draft selected to still to fill it out + some from the general participating players - if you have no idea what i'm talking about when i say scheduling link - You are missing it***
We will be finalizing all the details of the show match and the Questions that will be brought up on the last chat are:
1. Finalize who will be playing on what team.
2: Agree on the final matchdate..
3: What maps will be played, should we include two extra maps? Also if you are doing a basic best of five, or if you want to play a full series no matter what the scoreline is.
4: If there will be any ping rules.
5: Should we try set a practice date for you guys to group up and get abit familiar with each other.
6: I need to give you ip/password to the mumble server/private channels.
Alternatively if most are against using mumble, and want to use teamspeak instead, I'll have to go looking for a teamspeak server.
8: Does the cast need/want information on each individual player - should ocoini try to gather this, or can we find someone with more experience?
7: If there is anything you want to suggest/complaints/last wishes.
(Alternatively you can answer the questions here - It will be hard to give feedback to you if you have any concerns or opinions on the forum - but it will be mentioned in the chat if you write it here.)
The final information on the tournament will be given as a newspost on quakeworld.nu - and will be also be delivered on IRC if you come talk to me in #qwallstars - if you need to talk to the head caster it's in #suddendeath - and you'll be looking for Andeh!
Righty, see you on Sunday - Good luck with the Allstars everyone!
Older posts, defunct, otu of odrer under here::
Today we had a mock draft - and we are looking for feedback on these teams:
T1: Carapace, Rikoll, Razor, Paradoks, Meshuggah, : Backup: Wimpeeh
T2: Milton, BPS, KingPin, Diki, MM : Backup : Maga
Are we missing a player?
How does the team composition look like - should we move some players around?
Should we make bigger teams to give the teams more options for the games?
For comparison here are the players not selected, SO FAR:
Blood Dog, Åke Vader, Trygve, Raket ,Rio ,LethalWiz ,Kip, Sane, NIW, Predator, Andeh, norules.
A problem Carapace and Milton had while picking was it becomes fairly difficult to evaluate current skill level of players and comparing X player skill to Y. So it's REALLY helpful if you guys can give feedback! Also with explanations of why X is better on Y
There is nothing in the way of bringing in X player on X map, because this is a really good map for X person - even though he's not overall better than Y person. Etc... But it has to be some kind of in balance with the overall teams as well! (so yes, its complicated.)
Schedule right now and going forward - We will use the time from now until next week to evaluate the teams - By next Sunday the teams should be set in stone (after the weekend starting on 28'th August)- After this we will have two weeks for practice and for me to organize suitable match date for the players.
Please give feedback! Thank you!
... more to come ...
(i'd still like feedback on player skill, bottom of this post for more info)
Discussion about maps:
Milton made a suggestion about playing more maps - something akin to tb3 + two none tb3.
I made a suggestion that each team could pick one none- tb3 map if they would like.
Carapace pointed out that people might not be interested in seeing this?
Input?
Would you guys be interested in seeing them play on other maps than tb3?
Another poll perhaps ?
Currently working on:
Gathering casters, sorting teams.
Completed: Gathering players, organize mumble server- (Thanks Fro!), Found main caster - Sudden Death TV.
Future work (anyone can help out) :
Write Article for on qw.nu,
Out of my ability: Overlay/graphics/audio for an eventual draft/good looking stream/broadcast setup.
Short basic game play rules for players.
Inform players of Mumble server with passwords. + Make sure they know how to turn off "JOIN channel ding".
Set a date for the actual match. (Somewhere in September.)
Create hype!
Organizing a best of 5 Allstars game for late summer/Early Autumn. The match should consist of the 10 best active and semi-active 4on4 players we have in QuakeWorld right now.
Clarification: This will be mixed teams with the top 10 players! =)
Players will first be asked if they are interested in participating.
Even if you declare interest it's not sure you will be playing if we get more than 10 players - as we will limit the pool to the 10 best. (I'm not going to randomly pick 10 players, I'll try to get input and help from the players to get as close to "top 10" as we can. Posting in this thread is a nice way to give feedback on the teams when we get that far, otherwise we are in #qwallstars ). There is no first come first serve - but at a certain point, when we are beginning to form the teams, it will be to late to join.
I'm imagining the best date for this match will be right when EQL signup is about to start, to make some hype and spark some interest. And the teams are formed roughly two weeks before the match.
I'd like everyones help to contact and sort out the player list, and making two teams that would provide a nice set of entertaining games.
If we could narrow the list down to 10 players that would be nice.
Most likely using MM3 in some form is going to be required. (It would be cute for an eventual live-stream/recording if we could take a quick "sneak listen" in game as the game is going on.) But anything to do with MM3 is up to the players of course and the eventual casters.
Heres the suggestion list of players so far:
(Feel free to suggest more. We only need people that come on IRC; so we can contact them, and/or that will be reliable in showing up for an eventual prac with their team and the match it self!
If you were one of the players that had problems showing up for the draft this spring and you want to play, we need some kind of an assurance that you will infact commit this time.)
Player Pool:
Need to contact: Nitram, Xantom, Knave, Xterm, Ganon, Bulat, SS, Murzik, Shaka, Dimman, Hell, Creature, SS, Greco, Heddan, , x,x,x,x...
Interest:
Carapace confirmed interest.
Blood Dog confirmed interest.
Milton confirmed interest.
Åke Vader confirmed interest.
Trygve confirmed interest.
Kingpin confirmed interest.
Raket confirmed interest.
BPS confirmed interest.
Rio confirmed interest.
LethalWiz confirmed interest.
Kip confirmed interest.
Razor confirmed interest.
Paradoks confirmed interest.
Sane confirmed interest.
NIW confirmed interest.
RST confirmed interest.
Rikoll confirmed interest.
Diki confirmed interest.
Predator confirmed interest.
Andeh confirmed interest.
Wimpeeh confirmed interest.
norules confirmed interest.
Maga confirmed interest.
Meshuggha confirmed interest.
MM confirmed interest.
Declined: Crazymac, Overflow, BogoJoker, Ihminen, XN, Rst, Culkey
Regarding date, yes, I know it's kinda hard to say yes to something when your not sure when it is. There's two things we can do. Either we set a date straight away, or we wait until we have two teams ready to go. I'm more in favor of waiting til we have two teams set, as it's easier to find a free date for 10 people than 20+ or what we get. And i'd rather have the best sign up, than not signup because they don't know if they can. Everyone should have two-three hours free at some point =)
There's also a possibility of having backup players, but if we (against all odds) manage to actually balance two teams, it would be a shame to throw that out the window.
drop by #qwallstars
//A Sunday Spawnfraggin' Adminerinos, and SuddenDeathTV project!
Organizers last posts:
We've had three chats about the state of the 4on4 All Stars - Here's what we have agreed to so far:
On the 21'th there will be a mock draft on IRC. Carapace and Milton will most likely be the assigned captains for the two teams -
(Depending slightly on their attendance - if they are not online on the 21'st there could be replacements.)
So 21'st will most likely be the final deadline - for any stragglers.
Two teams will be selected with six members each. There will be five main players and a backup player for each team.
Once the two teams are selected there will be a few days available for discussion of the teams. Where the players look over the fairness of the two sides, aiming for balanced teams as well as evaluating if the selected players are actually the best players in the pool.
(So if you're not selected or if you are puzzled why your favorite 4on4'ers aren't on the teams this will be your chance to voice your concern.)
If however any type of draft situation falls by people not being able to show or not showing interest in sorting out teams I ask all participants to rank this list of players by their overall 4on4 skill:
- Either put but numbers behind their names (with 1 being the highest skill), or arrange the list by putting the best on top of the list. And PM me either here or on IRC with the link.
Carapace
Blood Dog
Milton
Åke Vader
Trygve
Kingpin
Raket
BPS
Rio
LethalWiz
Kip
Razor
Paradoks
Sane
NIW
Rikoll
Diki
Predator
Andeh
Wimpeeh
norules
Maga
Meshugga
MM
Once the teams are selected we will begin looking for a free date for the actual match.
(Edited 2015-09-17, 07:26)
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