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Member 68 posts
Registered: May 2006
i recently aquired a mx518 logi mouse and im wondering whats best setup for it?? kinda like:
- use or not use logitech drivers (mouseware) and which version to use? - any command line argument in ezquake (besides -dinput -m_smooth and -mwhook)
im using the following setup
- usb 1000hz patch - registry mousecurve fix applied - windows sensitivity set on 7 (from left to right, the bar got 11 dots.. im on the seventh) - ezquake sensitivity on 3 without mouseware
any remarks, hints or improves.. plz.. im all ears =) (or eyes !!! =D)
Member 1754 posts
Registered: Jan 2006
500hz(usbmrs11) and NO drivers for the mouse, shitty stuff just ruined my sens everytime I started quake fuhquake sens 7 and 7 in windows no -dinput or whatnot
Member 79 posts
Registered: Jan 2006
i'm using the setpoint drivers (english ones), swedish drivers was bugged for me
Windows: 1600 dpi set in the driver preferences sensitivity in setpoint: 4th bar pointer acceleration: none 500Hz patch
Quake: cmdline: -noforcemparms -noforcemaccel -dinput -m_smooth cfg: m_rate 500 sensitivity 1.6
all buttons and the mwheel works and aiming feels good ingame, very satisfied with my mx518 \o\
Member 68 posts
Registered: May 2006
feedback on peppe setup: pretty good precision but hard to find a good sensitivity to play with.. it seems like directinput can control sensitivity a lot better...
its a shame we cant use m_rate on ezquake =[[
Member 85 posts
Registered: May 2006
imo the best settings are: no mouse acceleration (der) 1000hz cmdline: -noforcemspd -noforcemparms (dont bother with -dinput) no drivers, two notches up from default (middle) sens will prolly end up about 3.5 - 4.0 in quake.. although if you are used to a different style of play you may end up disregarding these comments entirely also, it has to be said that 1000hz feels slower than 500hz, at least on takeoff.. i found this beneficial for shaft aim with these settings.. adding -noforcemaccel will slow my sens further, so i could use this with 500hz.. i just prefer the feel of this setup.
Member 84 posts
Registered: Jan 2006
I'm running mine at 500hz (patch) with latest SetPoint drivers installed, using no accel and default sens.
As for ezquake I'm using -dinput -m_smooth in the cmd line aswell as m_rate 500 and sensitivity 4.
Member 518 posts
Registered: Jan 2006
I'm running mine MX510 with 500hz, latest mouseware drivers sensitivity 5 in windows and 1 in quake (adjust it with m_pitch/m_yaw) no weird stuff in the cmd line.
Member 68 posts
Registered: May 2006
hmm.. interesting... finally getting some conclusions with sens.. got one good setup using
1000hz patch windows sens at 7 cmdline -dinput -m_smooth m_rate 500 m_filter 0 (finnaly got rid of it.. at least for now =]) no setpoint or mouseware or drivers or anything else =D maximum dpi using the dpi buttons on the mouse itself (pretty good stuff this buttons !! =D)
i get an accurate sensitivity 3 on ez... just more playtesting with this setup to make some fine tunning
seanos: i got pratically the same results u had here, but somehow the mouse felt weird with -noforceparms -noforcespeed... got 4.5 on ez using this but the mouse felt really weird... kinda like lagging or something like it
Member 85 posts
Registered: May 2006
hrm.. wierd :/ i get no lag whatsoever.. ah well, glad to head youve found some settings u can use =]
Member 518 posts
Registered: Jan 2006
You should ONLY USE -noforcemspd -noforcemparms when you find problems with the mouse, if you don't then don't use it.
Member 1011 posts
Registered: Feb 2006
if you don't use Windows for much else other than Quakeworld, Movies, Music, Internet+IRC then you are probably better off just installing a Linux distro. No mouse problems there.
Member 85 posts
Registered: May 2006
i really have no idea what any of these commands actually do.. :p but ive discovered -dinput to be the fucking shit. been playing without it for so long.. silly me! atm im using a couple of notches down from the middle bar... seems to be the best setting for it...
Member 85 posts
Registered: May 2006
question: does -m_smooth add latency to the mouse? even a little bit? m_filter adds *alot*, relatively speaking.
Member 85 posts
Registered: May 2006
ok, did a little testing then.. and imo it does add a *little* latency. its hardly noticable, though some quick reaction shots might suffer. it does seem to track slightly smoother, even with 1000hz. im keeping it off, it tracks smooth enough with 1600dpi ffs.
Member 200 posts
Registered: Apr 2006
when using -m_smooth you should set the variable m_rate to your mouserate
ps.: m_rate is only avaliable when using -m_smooth
Member 401 posts
Registered: Mar 2006
I use these settings with MX518 and its so smooth its unreal.
Setpoint:
1600dpi disable game detection speed/acc: OS implementation pointer speed: 4th line no acceleration
500hz patch
ezquake-gl
cmdline
+set vid_displayfrequency 100 // monitor refresh rate -dinput +set cl_independentPhysics 1 // so you can crank up fps
vars
cl_maxfps 231 // smoother than 154 cl_nolerp 0 // heaps smoother than 1 m_filter 0 sensitivity 2.25 // 11cm for 360 turn
Mouse pad is Everglide Titan clothpad. This is an awesome pad and is probably half the reason why this setup feels so smooth. BE
My aim is still shit but at least the setup is pretty much perfect for me ;-)
Hope this helps
Member 247 posts
Registered: Jan 2006
im running mine MX510 (800dpi max) at:
500Hz @ xp pro (def's patch?) 4th bar in MouseWare 9.80 (en. version) NO acceleration ezquake.exe with -noforcemaccel ONLY, no -dinput sens in qw: 10.5
800x600@150Hz, maxfps = 0
looks pretty stable and solid for me.
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