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Project Page: https://sourceforge.net/projects/nquake/
Bug Reports: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=197706&atid=962542
Feature Requests: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=197706&atid=962545
Statistics: http://sourceforge.net/projects/nquake/files/stats/timeline
Wiki Page: http://wiki.quakeworld.nu/NQuake

Current changelog:

2012-12-29 - nQuake v2.1 for OS X

* Removed the platform specific config fixes.

2012-12-29 - nQuake v2.2 for Linux

* Removed the platform specific config fixes.

2012-12-29 - nQuake v2.2 for Windows

* New installer welcome screen!
* Setup will now remove distfile folders after downloading them by default.
* Setup will no longer open readme file by default.
* Fixed the bug where start menu items weren't removed on uninstall.
* Removed the file association screen.
* Removed the fix where setup added cfg_use_home 1 to config.cfg if installed in Program Files.

2012-08-26 - nQuakesv v1.1 for Linux

* Now supports up to 10 ports.
* Improved code.

2012-08-22 - nQuake v2.1 for Linux

* Setup now automatically detects architecture.

2012-08-20 - nQuakesv v1.0 for Linux

* Initial release.

2012-08-20 - nQuake v2.1 for Windows

* Setup now checks if nQuake is installed in Program Files, if it is, cfg_use_home 1 is added to config.
* Added warning about installing nQuake into Program Files folder.
* Added readme to start menu.
* Fixed the bug where start menu items would not get removed by uninstall.

2012-08-18 - nQuake v2.0 for OS X

* Reduced amount of distfiles.
* Installation now removes dud files when pak1.pak is found.
* Bugfixes.

2012-08-18 - nQuake v2.0 for Linux

* Reduced amount of distfiles.
* Now checks if 'unzip' is installed before proceeding with install.
* Installation now removes dud files when pak1.pak is found.
* Bugfixes.

2012-08-16 - nQuake v2.0 for Windows

* Changed the installer graphics.
* Reduced the amount of distfiles.
* Removed pak1.pak selection screen.

2010-06-06 - nQuake v1.9a for Windows

* Changed Quake steam link and updated cost.
* Changed URL for "Custom Graphics" start menu shortcut.
* Changed nQuake project URL.

2008-06-05 - nQuake v1.9 for Windows

* nQuake now copies pak0.pak if found in the same directory as pak1.pak instead of downloading shareware Quake.
* "Keep/delete distribution files" option moved to distribution file folder selection page.
* Added a warning message when users choose to remove all files contained within the nQuake folder.
* Split the eyecandy and nquake packages into smaller packages.

2008-06-05 - nQuake CD-ROM Generator v1.1

* Added a warning message when users choose to remove all files contained within the nQuake folder.
* Changed the text "Installing file: <filename> (<filesize> kB)" to "Installed file: <filename>".
* Split the eyecandy and nquake packages into smaller packages.

2008-06-05 - nQuake v1.3 for Mac OS X

* Split the eyecandy and nquake packages into smaller packages.
* Future compatibility.

2008-06-05 - nQuake v1.3 for Linux

* Split the eyecandy and nquake packages into smaller packages.
* Future compatibility.

2008-05-16 - nQuake v1.2a for Mac OS X

* Renamed README to INSTALL for clarity.
* Fixed the bug where tr would chop off large parts of some files during DOS2UNIX translation.

2008-05-16 - nQuake v1.2b for Linux

* Fixed the error messages caused by tr.

2008-02-18 - nQuake v1.2a for Linux

* Renamed README to INSTALL for clarity.
* Removed ezQuake's security module.

2008-02-18 - nQuake v1.8a

* Removed ezQuake's security module.

2008-02-18 - nQuake CD-ROM Generator v1.0a

* Removed ezQuake's security module.

2007-11-06 - nQuake v1.2 for Linux/Mac OS X

* Added gnu.txt (oops).
* Added readme files describing the installation process.
* Added [possibility of] Linux specific configuration settings. (Linux)
* Changed the behaviour of the installer so the OS-specific modifications are taken from ./ezquake/configs/config-<os>.cfg instead of from the installer.
* Changed the DOS->UNIX code to replace \r instead of \015 as this caused problems on some OS configurations.
* Removed the -size parameter on pak1.pak searches in case the user has a modified pak1.pak and still wants to use it.
* Fixed the bug where entering ~/whatever as install dir would install nQuake into ./~/whatever.
* Fixed the bug where setup would always search /home for pak1.pak (i.e. not the specified search path).
* Code cleanup.

2007-11-05 - nQuake v1.1 for Linux/Mac OS X

* Added user input when base folder is set for removal.
* Added a check to see if the install dir exists or not, and if it is writable or not.
* Changed the default installation path to /Applications/nQuake. (Mac OS X)
* Setup now modifies the default configuration to more Mac friendly values. (Mac OS X)
* Fixed the bug that caused the installer to exit if a downloaded distfile was smaller than what was specified in nquake.ini.
* Fixed several small bugs that caused the installer to produce errors.
* Code cleanup.

2007-11-04 - nQuake v1.0 for Linux/Mac OS X

* Initial release.

2007-11-04 - nQuake CD-ROM Generator v1.0

* Initial release.

2007-10-20 - nQuake v1.8

* Added ezQuake security module.
* Setup now starts up twice as fast.
* Setup now asks the user to associate QuakeWorld related files or not.
* Uninstaller now only removes registry entries and start menu items if they were installed by the same nQuake as is being uninstalled.
* Fixed the bug where setup would not remove distfiles after installation.

2007-08-15 - nQuake v1.7d

* Fixed the bug where uninstall options 1 and 2 did not work.

2007-08-08 - nQuake v1.7c

* Added a link to purchase Quake on Steam.

2007-08-06 - nQuake v1.7b

* Setup now looks for pak1.pak in possible Steam installations of Quake.

2007-08-02 - nQuake v1.7a

* Fixed the bug where nquake.ini would not get copied to the distribution file folder after installation was complete.

2007-08-01 - nQuake v1.7

* Setup now displays the actual installation progress.
* Setup now displays more informative messages when downloading and extracting files.
* Setup now displays the details window when cancelling the installation.
* Pressing the [x] during the initialization now cancels the installation.
* Changed the look of the downloading process.

2007-07-25 - nQuake v1.6

* Added an error page in case there were errors during the installation.
* Added a "retry" button to the initialization phase should the installer not be able to download nquake.ini.
* Removed the "Show details" button from the installation page.
* Removed the "Visit community site" link during offline installations.
* Removed the "This is an online installer..." text from the welcome page during offline installations.

2007-07-23 - nQuake v1.5b

* Fixed the bug that printed an infinite loop of "Extract: OK" messages when a downloaded zip file was corrupt.

2007-07-18 - nQuake v1.5a

* Fixed the bug that messed up the pak1.pak finder if the first found pak1.pak didn't have correct size.

2007-07-17 - nQuake v1.5

* Setup initialization time reduced by 75%.
* Setup will now backup existing config files as "config-YYYYMMDDHHMMSS.cfg" instead of "config.bak".

2007-07-16 - nQuake v1.4

* Changing the versioning system from x.y to x.ya, where a is a-z, representing small changes.
* Made nQuake offline compatible, failing the download during initialization triggers the offline mode.
* Merged the two uninstall pages into one.
* Merged the "This will remove *all* files..." popup with the new uninstall page.
* Added file association for .lst (Notepad).
* Fixed the bug where setup would not update old distfiles even if their creation dates were in fact outdated.

2007-07-15 - nQuake v1.31

* Fixed the bug where setup would not update old distfiles due to distfiledates.ini not being saved.

2007-07-15 - nQuake v1.3

* Added an uninstall option for removing files that were installed by nQuake, even if they were modified.
* Setup no longer attempts to copy pak1.pak if it already exists in the installation directory.
* Setup no longer steals focus when copying pak1.pak.
* Setup now checks the validity of pak1.pak.
* Setup now complains if you specify a file path that doesn't exist using the Browse button during the Full Version step.
* Setup now automatically shows the finish page when the installation process is finished.
* Setup now associates ezQuake with qtv/mvd/qwd/qwz files.
* Improved initialization process.
* Improved installer header gfx.

2007-07-14 - nQuake v1.2

* nQuake is now the solid package it claims to be - the user has no choices as to what packages are installed.
* When uninstalling, user gets the choice of removing just the files nQuake installed, or removing the nQuake folder altogether.
* nQuake now backups old config file (ezquake/configs/config.cfg) if installed into an old Quake directory.
* Installer no longer temporarily creates a distfiles.log in the distfiles directory (useless).
* Setup is now clean of popup messages where they could be avoided.
* The installer has been generally cleaned up.

2007-07-09 - nQuake v1.1

* Installer now asks if it should keep the distribution files instead of asking to delete them.
* Installer now looks for pak1.pak on 21 likely locations. If pak1.pak is not found, the user gets to browse for it.
* Fixed the bug where nQuake wouldn't detect newer versions if the current version was x.0x.

2007-07-05 - nQuake v1.01

* Added link to gfx.qwdrama.com in Links.
* Fixed bug where installer doesn't remove distfiledates.ini from nquake-distfiles.
* Changed "Improved Visuals" to "Enhanced Graphics".
* Changed help/update links in program info (they were fQuake links in v1.0).

2007-07-01 - nQuake v1.0

* First public release.

(Edited 2012-12-29, 19:24)

i'm gonna include some demos

i'm thinking one 1on1, 2on2, 4on4 demo

pls give suggestions on what demos i should include!

how about making tutorial demo? you could put +play tutorial.dem to ezquakes shortcut and use echo's and play comments.wav and such... It could be nice.. :-)

1on1 suggestions;
http://www.challenge-tv.com/index.php?mode=demodetail&demo=26407 duelmania 4 final reppie - phantasy
http://www.challenge-tv.com/index.php?mode=demodetail&demo=26408 dag v def 6x dm6
2on2 suggestions;
http://www.challenge-tv.com/index.php?mode=demodetail&demo=16157 goljat gamer vs griffin mrlame
http://www.challenge-tv.com/index.php?mode=demodetail&demo=22863 griffin mrlame vs dag space
4on4 suggestions;
http://www.challenge-tv.com/index.php?mode=demodetail&demo=32590 slackers v legeartis eql
http://www.challenge-tv.com/index.php?mode=demodetail&demo=31031 legeartis v cmf

fenks. i added some of those!

further discussion in my blog plz!

http://www.quakeworld.nu/?page=blogs&id=21&aid=11

Empezar,

Adding demos is a great idea, but please don't add more than 1-2 of the best (maybe one 1on1 and one 4on4. This will give newbies just a small taste and leave them wanting more, which will in turn encourage them to visit forums and websites regarding Quake.

Also, please don't include several clients or several different texture packs for the same maps, etc. This will only add on to the file size and confuse the newbies.

please, let's comment one of the demos and use echo comment_1, comment_2, comment_3 (I mean play comment) to explain what's happening in the demo?

you can check nQuake out at http://f.nu/nquake up2

i've just added one of each mode + 1 classic demo (with thresh) so far.

and i've only included ezquake, and cleaned up the quake directory a LOT, so the confusion lessens when they don't install start menu items.

check it out yourself

BTW. the current installer puts pak0.pak in id1 folder, it's SUPPOSED to move pak0.pak to qw directory and remove ID1 directory, to make the quake dir more clean.

i'm gonna work more on nQuake on sunday, so keep posting suggestions! (I'm not at work until sunday, and i can only work on nquake while im at work)

i've also only included one bot, which is the DEFAULT mod when starting quake

so someone wanting to play with bots can just type "bot", and then like "1on1" or "2on2"..

i'm gonna work some more on making it even simpler.

(I'm not at work until sunday, and i can only work on nquake while im at work)

Please, what kind of work do you have? and where does one sign up?

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7855/ezquake000largemediumou9.jpg

this happens when i type /map <anymap>

also.. i don't agree with some things used
- default resolution should be 1024x768 since it's more common
- crosshair should be something not ripped off from other games (Doom3)
- the WAD textures aren't quakish
- qizmo_dir should be "/qw/qizmo" => one less directory to be confused about in the root
- bmodels textures for health boxes aren't faithful (and they are fugly IMHO)
- config isn't saved on exit (many newbies are annoyed by this.. they expect that settings to be saved on exit)

do you mind if i propose a variation of an nQuake install?

edit:

things needed to be changed in the default config:
- cl_fakeshaft "1" (fakeshaft 0 makes the game look really jerky and old)
- scr_consize "0.5" (leave it as default, instead of "0.4"
- gl_detail "0" (1 makes textures look like old deteriorated cardboard.. yuck! leave it as default, "0"
- the smoke from r_rockettrail "3" looks too heavy in fights, use "7" since it's more reasonable for visibility and FPS
- gl_contrast "1.3" (default) instead of 1.2

use the config from my package in general since i passed it around to many beginners and nobody complained

ok..
made an archive with a nQuake install wannabe

differences:
- Deurk's HUD (green borders and democlock/armordamage text are from /hud_editor mode!)
- replaced WAD textures with more faithful ones
- replaced bmodels textures with QRP ones
- added a few more maps (ztndm3q, ztndm6, qcon1, shine, cpm1qw, cpm3qw, cpma3a, debello, oldcrat, q3dm6ish, vdm3v3)
- qizmo_dir moved from root to /qw/qizmo
- replaced fragfile.dat with a modified version by me, because the one that comes with EZ has some issues (if you die in lava it says in r_tracker messages "X drown" instead of "X fried" etc.)
- replaced and deleted some skins
- added missing textures from aerowalk (since the QRP project doesn't have all the base textures done)
- replaced doom3 crosshair with crosss.png (by Ironman)
- workaround to missing model spawn server error (copied grenade.mdl as end2/3/4.mdl, laser.mdl)
- workaround for not being able to play demos (copied grenade.mdl as b_s_key.mdl, b_g_key.mdl)

- tweaked default config & bindlist a little:

other than these changes i tried to keep the same structure as your nQuake folder

done uploading:
http://shub-hub.quaddicted.com/files/misc/nQuake_proposal.rar (60 MB) - needs Pak0.pak copied in /id1/ to work

sounds great so far, emp. I'll check it out as soon as my classes are over

wow, everything sound great! keep up the good work guys 8)

i've updated the pack with a lot of aquashark's suggestions.

this is my todo list:

- make a good, faithful hud
- add new fragfile.dat (ezQuake's is apparently bugged)
- add aerowalk textures + resize them
- add new qrp textures + resize them
- resize bmodel textures
- create new installer graphics
- create a simple homepage with hosting on sf.net

http://f.nu/nquake

how is ezquake's bugged?

when you die in lava it says:

player drown

when r_tracker_frags is 1. "drown" should be "fried"

hmmm.. the demos currently included cannot be played without pak1.pak

so i guess 1on1, 2on2, 4on4 demos from e1m2 OR custom maps (preferably maps that are included with nquake)

i'm thinking about renaming this pack

probably NAC

as in Nquake Ain't a Client

getting kinda tired of saying "nQuake is not a client" everytime someone gets told to download nquake
or fQuake, or eQuake... etc

this way i'm not using id's registered trademark Quake, either!

i like it empezar
how about "Nquake isn't a client" instead ?

neah.. not a very good name

i like "nQuake", keep it

hehe nice idea mushi, NIC

however, NAC rhymes with PACK/PAK/PAC which i kinda like

(aquashark, you always forget "i think you should" in your suggestions, that annoys me)

eh, sorry
didn't mean to sound like such an authority. my avatar has a bad influence

cl_fakeshaft isnt allowed with -ruleset smackdown ? Would be kinda stupid to add that in the default cfg as someone suggested?

it was removed from smackdown ruleset in v1.8 afaik

and who cares? n00bs won't jump in big leagues from the first match.. like wtf?

well, they might be called "cheaters", and that's bad. cause they won't know why.

but that's not a problem now

Aha i didnt know, been away for a while. Well then add it as standard, its better for the new comers...

On this pic you have another bug with the console + hud

the console is somehow trapped in the hud when he put his console up its still messy!!

anatase got this problem in #qwrookie

another pic some errors with his hud

i have a similar problem on my macbook with windows (bootcamp), no idea what's causing it.