Difference between revisions of "DM6 Duel Tournament"

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Revision as of 11:37, 11 June 2020

[e][h]DM6 Duel Tournament
Dm6tour.jpg
League Information
Organizer:
Type:
Online
Format:
League (Bo5)
Prize pool:
Fame & Glory
Start Date:
2020-06-08
Links
Maps

Welcome to Quakeworld and one of Quake's most legendary map: dm6. This is the second tournament in its kind, and the the successor to dm4 tournament. It will be a dm6 only duel tournament where the king of dm6 in 2020 is crowned.

Format

Fakenickers will be burned alive and quartered, but we all play for fun so lets keep it that way.

Rules

  • BO5 for all games
  • Timelimit: 10 minutes
  • Overtime: 3 minutes


Groupstage 1


Group 1
1. Norway nigve 3-0 1-0 +3
2. Netherlands rasta 0-0 0-0 0
3. Spain chung_o 0-0 0-0 0
4. Sweden alice 0-3 0-1 -3
Group 2
1. Sweden bps 3-0 1-0 +3
2. Norway TheChosenOne 3-3 1-1 0
3. Portugal Mushi 0-0 0-0 0
4. Portugal infest 0-3 0-1 -3


Group 3
1. Sweden grc 6-0 2-0 +6
2. Czech Republic Flamer 6-3 2-1 +3
4. Norway Link 0-3 0-1 -3
4. Great Britain nautilus 0-6 0-2 -6


Group 4
1. Norway effie 3-1 1-0 +2
2. Norway Macisum 0-0 0-0 0
3. France Speedball 0-0 0-0 0
4. Sweden tumult 1-3 0-1 -2


Group 5
1. Ireland lordlame 9-0 3-0 +9
2. France Bernkaoch 3-4 1-1 -1
3. Germany rghst 0-3 0-1 -3
4. Portugal diehuman 1-6 0-2 -5


Group 6
1. Sweden raket 3-0 1-0 +3
2. Ireland stalkerrh 0-0 0-0 0
3. Norway Baresi 0-0 0-0 0
4. Germany Anni 0-3 0-1 -3


Group 7
1. Sweden LocKtar 6-0 2-0 +6
2. Russia Evil 0-0 0-0 0
3. Sweden lurq 0-3 0-1 -3
4. Great Britain Turbo 0-3 0-1 -3


Group 8
1. Portugal hammer 3-0 1-0 +3
2. Great Britain sae 3-0 1-0 +3
3. Netherlands blixem 3-0 1-0 +3
4. Sweden HoLy 0-9 0-3 -9

Results

Playoff A

Place Winner
1st TBD tbd
2nd TBD tbd
3rd TBD tbd
4th TBD tbd


Playoff B

Place Winner
1st TBD tbd
2nd TBD tbd
3rd TBD tbd
4th TBD tbd